Bay County Property Tax

Last night State Senator Don Gaetz, along with other local officials and the Bay County Commission met at Gulf Coast Community College to discuss the recent rejection of the 2007 Tax Rolls from the Bay County Property Appraiser’s Office. The recent increase in property values over the last couple of years has sparked a sharp increase (500 – 600% in some cases) in assessed value. The milliage was reduced last year, but property assessments have increased so much so that the reduced milliage rates still did little to curb the increased tax bill. For some on a fixed income or with rental property, this affects their ability to own real estate because their operating costs sky rocket.

I just got off the phone with the property appraiser’s office, trying to understand how the valuation process works and how it could be improved. The way I understand it, the assessment is based on an average of “like” homes in the immediate area, not the individual home itself. So you end up averaging some homes of a slightly higher value with homes of a slightly lower value and you end up with skewed numbers.

At the meeting on Wednesday night, it was mentioned that the Florida Department of Revenue had agreed to review the current entire tax roll. Local tax payers gathered at the public meeting to voice their opinion on the recent increase and express their concern. Senator Gaetz, Representative Jimmy Patronis and Representative Marti Coley, R-Marianna questioned local spending and the offered the possibility of a milliage rate reduction.

I don’t know that I fully understand what could be done with the valuation process to make it better, does anyone have any insight on this?

Proponents to a consolidated City/County Government?

As written by one of our readers, Johnothan Jones:

The County Road 388 issues are a small example of the short sighted way the county government constantly approaches things. Commissioner Gainer typically is the worst of the county leadership when looking at things in a tasteful meaningful way to improve the county infrastructure. I have lived in here for 7 years and worked within the county government and seen the ill conceived short sighted approach to many problems and issues. Hwy 388 will be a main artery to the new airport and instead of embracing the things to come Commissioner Gainer and many others would rather pass the buck to someone else instead fulfilling the county’s responsibilities to it’s citizens. One issue that continually happens is the “ego” issues of the county and city politicians. When you have 8 municipalities and 5 are basically directly across the street from one another, how in the world can you get anything done in a efficient cost effective manner.

An example of this is by taking a look at 11th St, which is a main thoroughfare from Tyndall Parkway to St. Andrews. It crosses 3 different cities and none of which are willing to put the money up and work together to resurface, widen and make safer for the thousands of citizens that traverse that road on a daily basis. Hwy 390 is another perfect example of passing the buck and not thinking ahead until it’s too late. that road has needed to be 4-laned for at least 15 years, yet because of improper planning and the county/city governments not working together on a conceptive vision through planning and zoning of the county infrastructure it is still not 4-laned or even 6-laned (which was a state recommendation due to traffic counts in 2004) to bare the huge traffic numbers that strain it daily.

These are but a few examples of the main problems that will plague our community until we have the right leadership with vision and know how to get things done correctly. I and many others have felt a consolidated county/city government is the best remedy to push our county to the next level and get the results we need as a community. With a population of roughly 160,000 and growing daily the time is right to change the way we do things. With only 5 county commissioners controlling our future’s along with the fractured city governments in the middle, it’s time for a change in approach, mindset and vision for the changes coming to our area. In the 2002 elections there was a non-binding referendum on the ballot asking the citizens if they wanted a consolidated government and 68% vote “YES”. Most people don’t realize the positive effects this would make on our community as a whole. It would mean completely streamlining the tax codes for the county, consolidating fire and police services, which many people know in the smaller cities such as Cedar Grove and others is inadequate in most cases. The Planning and Zoning Departments would be consolidated so that everyone would be on the same page and not just throwing up whatever because the same guidelines would apply for everyone. It would mean constructive thought and consideration of our neighbors instead of the isolationism that often occurs. Currently the county has just 4 Code Enforcement officers for the whole county entrusted to clean up the numerous rundown properties, which include many dilapidated mobile home and housing areas that get overlooked because traversing the mountain to get things changed seems out of reach in most cases. With consolidation, Code Enforcement could actually make a difference with more resources and officers out on the streets making sure property owners are maintaining their properties in a respectful and acceptable manner.

Most opponents of the consolidation approach use the fear tactic that the little guy won’t have a voice with the county politicians like they do with their city leaders. This would be completely the opposite due to the fact the county commission would be expanded to probably a 9 seat board and many of the city and county department heads would be integrated into the revamped/streamlined agencies that oversee the road department, planning and zoning and code enforcement to name a few. The difference would be everyone working from the same rule book, on the same team and with common goals working for the betterment of the citizens as a whole.

Regardless of what some think, we are all in this together as a county and for the individualists that want to maintain their “Big Fish in a Little Pond” approach, it’s just not going to work in the long term. The impact of the new airport is going to significantly change our county regardless and sticking our heads in the sand and continually doing things as they’ve been done is just not going to work. The increase of population, expectations of the voters and just plain decency of doing something meaningful for the betterment of the county we live in demands a change in current mindset. Given the tight hold the county power brokers wield the best and most effective way to get the changes made is to facilitate a “Binding” referendum on the ballots forcing the county to make these changes.

Thank you for this outlet to voice concerns and discuss options for our area.

Best Regards,
Johnothan Jones

What do you think about this? Do you think this would work for our area? It sure sounds like it would simplify of local governments.

Computer crashed, installed Windows Vista – review

Ok, I know it’s not real estate related, nor is it necessarily related to Panama City Beach, but I just wanted to share my Windows Vista experience. Upon powering up my computer on Saturday, I quickly discovered that some of the key software I use day to day was not working right. I ultimately ended up reformatting the hard drive and reinstalling everything and figured since I was going this far, why not upgrade to Vista. I had heard horror stories on how the upgrade had been a disaster with countless compatibility issues and unfamiliar error codes, but I figured, “why not, I’m a genius.” Well, I’m no genius, but I did get it all figured out; I spent the better part of 3 days working through error codes and compatibility fixes, but finally, everything works perfectly.

I must say, Vista is cool, definitely cool. There are little quirks that are annoying (like how it assumes you are not an administrator even though you are signed into an administrative account and ceaselessly asks for verification whenever you are making system changes, even minor ones), and certainly some things are in different places (such as the user directory hierarchy is a little different the ODBC registry works a little differently), but all in all I like it.

My wife made fun of my initial response that was based on only what I knew at the time, not knowing how everything, system-wise, would work. “I find it very visually appealing.” With the smooth movements and crisp imagery, the windows seem to “fly” in and out and the subtle yet effective little pings it gives you to indicate changes are being made seem to be, somehow, soothing. We can’t forget the cool “switch between windows” feature in the quick launch toolbar, and the “gadgets” on the side that keep the news at your finger tips and help you monitor your cpu usage..

Windows Vista Screenshot

Its funny, and somewhat geeky, but I actually look forward to turning on my computer and entering the cool, exciting world of Windows Vista. Perhaps I’m not a true geek. All my geeky friends loathe Vista with their grip firm on XP, but isn’t this how most geeks felt about XP when it came out? What can I say, I’m a sucker for something that looks cool, and Vista looks really cool, even though it does seem to suck up 25% to 35% of my 2 gigs of RAM. 😦


Towne of Seahaven Update – Pictures

Many are familiar with The Towne of Seahaven, and some of you are buyers in the first phase, Origin. Seahaven, when completed will bring much to our area, including a water park, spa and conference space. The vision is a village concept, not unlike the Village of Baytowne Wharf in Sandestin. My family is buying in there, and despite market conditions, still excited to close. This will truly be a great addition to our area.

The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - outside The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - pool on fourth floor amenity deck The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - kitchen in 2 br lock off
The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - model master bedroom The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - model living area The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - model studio of 2 br lockoff
The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - pool from the 9th floor The Towne of Seahaven, Origin - model bathroom

2007 Tourism up from 2006

Labor Day marked the end of the 2007 tourism season. Numbers were up this year from last year with total gross revenues from October 2006 to August 2007 exceeding $176 million. 2006 revenue was around $158 million. This resulted in an estimated $550,000 increase in bed tax collections. Estimates claim that revenue from tourist related goods and services will be around $400 million.

As the real estate market is slow, the rental market seems to be gaining strength. People are not buying, but they seem to be renting, and with the economy being in pretty good shape, people have the money to vacation.

Bay County Commission Rejects 2007 Tax Rolls

It’s no secret the appraisal process for the Bay County Property Appraisers office is flawed. On the radio this morning I heard a caller into the Burnie Thompson Show on Talk Radio 101 that said that his assessed value from the Bay County Property Appraisers office was more than $200,000, yet his appraisal that just came back on a refi came in at less than $100,000. He couldn’t understand where the difference was coming from.

I, fortunately, do not have first hand experience with this, but have heard the stories like everyone else. The action of “rejecting” the tax rolls by the Bay County Commission is goaled at challenging the state to ultimately lower property taxes.

Lee Sullilvan was on the show this morning promoting is organization has the goal of “advocate for fairness in taxes and accountability in local government.” They’ve been around since 2006 and have over 5000 members.